A Table Talk on What It Means to be Patriotic

If you are a listener from the United States, how patriotic do you feel at this time? Did you celebrate the 4th of July with enthusiasm and gusto or with an eye roll and a mumbled “Meh!”?

In this conversation, we reflect on the significance of the 4th of July and explore the concept of patriotism. We discuss personal experiences related to Independence Day, the meaning of patriotism in contemporary society, and the importance of acknowledging both the positive and negative aspects of American history. We emphasize the need for critical assessment of national pride and the role of civil discourse in creating a more inclusive understanding of patriotism.

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Take Our Patriotic Survey:

We’d like to know how you spent your 4th of July this year and what it means to you to be patriotic, now that you know our answers to these. Please take a minute to visit this Google Form link where you can take our three question survey: https://forms.gle/f1Xsm112E8hVogJV7

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Learn more:

• The 4th of July, a Time to Celebrate…or Not? By Heidi and Guy Burgess -

The 4th of July, a Time to Celebrate — Or Not?

• We asked the same questions of Perplexity AI that Heidi and Guy asked of Chat GPT 4o. We got similar answers. If you are curious, you can look at what we found on Perplexity using this link: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/can-you-tell-me-what-progressi-2It9P1PLSXWppcK6NPo0sQ

• An excellent podcast that looks at what it means to be patriotic through the evolution of Captain America. Does America Need a Hero? From NPR history podcast Throughline: https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/1255164467/does-america-need-a-hero
  

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Look for yourself:

• Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/

• FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/

• Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

• RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Media Bias: Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

• Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

• All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

• Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive

Want to watch us do the podcast?

Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

To contact us, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?

Please email us at tom3rdSpace@gmail.com or lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits

• Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

• Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

• Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.

• Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/.

• For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

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No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded July 3, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, July 7, 2025.